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+2 # Ben 2011-04-28 10:05
Wow Greg this really sucks. I joined the very small community back in July / August last year when it WAS just a blog and your input was clearly seen from a more technical side.

The fact that you and Jared are no longer working together IS jared's loss! The videos have already started to go downhill, especially the last fro show and the past couple of RAW edits.

Keep your chin up though pal - life's to short
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+1 # Gail 2011-04-28 10:18
As I have always thought, and it has now been proven, Greg, you are a great man. You have lots of class and this video just proves all of it. You will do great things and you don't need Jared to get them. It's a shame this happen, but everything happens for a reason. There is something much bigger and better for you coming along.

Hugs from one student who has learned so much from you! Although, yes, I feel I still have a long way to go, so stick around!

G/
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0 # andy 2011-04-28 10:24
Hi Greg,

Sorry to see this go down, you surely did not deserve that. I hope that it works out well for you, i will be watching this site regularly.

Lesson for you here i think though, if youre going to be involved with anything again. Ensure you are integral to the brand itself, and not seen as a contributor to it.

I wish you all the best man, your knowledge has helped me and im sure many others become better photographers.

Peace.
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0 # Adam 2011-04-28 10:33
Greg, thank you so much for everything that you have contributed to the froknowsphoto site over this last year. I will continue to follow you via your facebook and and your website and am hopeful that you will continue to put out these quality videos that everyday photographers like myself have come to rely on.

Thanks again,
Adam
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0 # Bill Moran 2011-04-28 10:37
i think its hurting jareds credability by reading a response & not being truthful. By reading the response shows a disconnect to his fans
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0 # Eric 2011-04-28 10:37
Hey Greg, keep on, keeping on!! Get a video blog rolling and you have me as a follower. Your contribution to FKP was outstanding and I always looked forward to your videos and insight. Thanks!
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0 # Mike 2011-04-28 11:47
And sh*t just got real.
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0 # Mike 2011-04-28 11:50
Greg,

I hate to say it, but things like forums and CMS systems and social networking are all commodities. Anyone that can copy and paste code can implement these things pretty easily.
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0 # Anthony 2011-04-28 12:29
love your videos. I would love to know if you do workshops. I would be there in a FLASH!!!!!! your flash stuff is priceless!!!!! They helped me allot...and i will fallow you and also help you in any way I can . I would love to work with you!!!!!! you are a great guy and an honest guy The fro sight was supposed to be about his mom now all the shirts mouse pads hats ,It's just about money, I still love the sight but will fallow you!!!
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-1 # Stan 2011-04-28 12:50
Greg, cheer up chap!

Honestly, you guys need to separate your friendship and business lives. Things didn't work out with the business. Get over it and move on. Start your own site with tutorials and all that helpful information you were posting with the Fro.

Mainly, you have to stay friends with Jared. Dumping a long time friend is a bad move.
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0 # Gail 2011-04-28 13:23
OMG! That photo is just too funny! Loved it!
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0 # Clair 2011-04-28 13:32
Thank you Greg for the heartfelt & truthful statement (unlike Jareds!) I wish you well in whatever you decide to do. I would LOVE to see you build your brand & create a popular,enterta ining & educational site for us to enjoy...YOU certainly have the knowledge to do so.
Clair
xxx
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0 # James Fear 2011-04-28 13:41
You're a genuine guy Greg and that shines through. Jared comes across as up his own ****. You we're Jared's balance, without your input I can see people getting sick of Jared quickly. Also, he truthfully isn't that knowledgable where you are. You need to start putting out content soon though, as people soon forget...

This could be the break you need, best of luck,

James
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0 # Clair 2011-04-28 14:00
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0 # Michel 2011-04-28 14:05
I am verry sorry for what happened but you know what?I was fan of this site because of your comments and videos.I prefer your style in post processing images and your tecnical knowledge.
So i will follow your blog and if you create a new site i am 100% sure that most of the froknows users will follow you.
So i wish you the best...
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0 # dave seymour 2011-04-28 14:20
greg your the man thanks for the video, now thats a proper adult respectful video right there ! from the heart and not off a A4.
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-1 # Jeff 2011-04-28 15:09
Hi Greg, as always you are handling this in a mature fashion. I think we all know you helped build fkp.com and I encourage you to build your own. The fkp site will not be the same without your involvement. Things happen in our lives for a reason. It's your time to shine! I know it takes a lot to start over again - building a site, etc. Take some time to figure out what works for you. If you do decide to build a site you will have a big following waiting in the wings to help you grow.

You both complimented each other as your views were for the most part different. Which added more depth to the site.

I am very thankful for the time you put into all the videos/blogs, etc. and I just wanted to Thank you personally!

Jeff
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0 # Jim 2011-04-28 15:46
Greg,

I agree people should not attack Jared for what he did. It is something between the two of you to resolve but unfortunately seems the only way to discuss it is on websites.

I also understand that your life and source of income is photography related. You have every right to do what is needed to "get paid". I was going to suggest this on the other site but will here instead.

I think many would benefit from your Lightroom videos you have already done, and hope to continue to do. I would like to see the previous ones repackaged, maybe with some sample files, receipes, etc. and sold on DVDs.

Will be watching your site no matter what to see what lies ahead for you.

Best of luck!!
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+3 # Kevin Atwell 2011-04-28 16:04
A Man's Man ! Words coming from the heart mind and soul, Not from a script.....Very well spoken Greg
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0 # Oliver 2011-04-28 16:52
This is all really fucked Up!
Everyone is emotional and everything is chaotic. Really sad seeing you goes 'break up'. You guys started the site with a purpose, and i'm sure this wasn't the purpose!
Pleeease go meet each other and fix things. Because i really don't like seeing you so sad greg!!

Oliver
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0 # Ryan 2011-04-28 20:20
I will say this upsets me, I looked up to Jared. To me it seems like an elementary school project. Jared and Greg seemed to have key parts in a two person project, but when it came time for the grade, he claimed all the credit. I will say that this is frustrating mainly because I looked up to him as a role model not only as a photographer but the way he ran a business, his attitude and his love for his friends and family. To see him dump away one of his colleges and close friends really makes me question if Jared is what he is like after the video ends with his friendly "Fro Knows Photo.com see-ya!"

I really wish that Jared will not destroy something that has worked and break something that has made me a 16 year old, a better photographer than some professional photographers.

Greg, I really wish that you and Jared can come to an understanding. However if that can't be met, I will watch your videos every time you post them.
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-1 # Roman Alina 2011-04-29 00:59
Hey Greg! Let me tell u this: Jared did not threat u well and everyone realized that. With all his fat jokes and stuff. Plus he almost never respected ur opinion with already means u should not work with him! Doesn't deserve u! He used u until he got to the point where the website is set up, ppl know him, he's got everything he needs and now dumps u. What goes around, comes around but only in much worse way. He will get what he deserves and u will get what u deserve! And u deserve being respected and cared for! I respect you and I threat you well as a man and ur honesty and kindness will come back to u through someone else. What ever happens, happenes to the best. May God bless u and help u with everything and may u b known and appreciated much more than others! We r with u and only ur fans, Roman and my wife Alina!
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+1 # George 2011-04-29 03:26
We are hear to support you.. I too was used for my knowledge for a software company that is now a success and was let go once they milked everything I knew.. Seems to me that most people are "assholes until proven otherwise"

I do enjoy watching you and jared discuess topics and trust me jared always goes on rants over the same thing and makes the show long and boring for me.. I'm always forwarding it to bypass his rants and repeating of the same things.

I do like your style.. you obviously don't do a show to "make yourself the best man on the planet" like Jared does.. and you are just a down to earth guy that takes time to show us real world stuff.. I do support you in your new endeavors..
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0 # Pepi 2011-04-29 03:54
Very unfortunate to see this happen, Sorry for what has happened Greg.
Im not one to pick sides in a disagreement of any sort between friends but seeing the coldness in Jareds video and how rehearsed it was, makes me not want to continue visiting the froknowsphoto website, i feel ur response was more genuine and heartfelt, so for that reason i would rather support a real no bullshit kinda guy such as yourself ... oh and also you get straight to the point, i dont have to fast forward your rants in videos lol

Wishing you all the best in your future endeavours, im with ya 100%
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0 # Dawid 2011-04-29 05:38
Thank you for this video. I am totally with you Greg. Greetings from Poland and I hope this not your last word :)

Good luck!
Dawid
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0 # Rui Melo 2011-04-29 09:32
Best of luck!!

I hope you find the time to build a brand so we can support and learn from you.

I can garantee that I'll follow it!

Rui
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-4 # John.B 2011-04-29 11:12
Greg, you must start something right now when you have the support of your 700 subscribers, before is too late. It's now or never. How many days you need to think? You have a website, you have a youtube channel, you have your own 700 subscibers. What else do you need? You are a man of action or we all 700 people were wrong about you?
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+5 # Remco van de Sanden 2011-04-29 14:30
Thank you Greg for taking the time to make this vid.
I think this vid shows real integrity
and what kind of person you are. Still correct, still polite and with a big heart for people.

I do hope you can find your own way in the things you would like to do and see happen. I know you got the support of a lot of people. Their are many people willing to help out, and if you would create a place for people to come, I think you will be astonished by the numbers that will join you.

I (We) hope to see and hear more from you in the future. I hope you can find a place for it. But we also realize that putting bread on the table is the priority, and the rest comes in second.

Take care, enjoy the FD training and all the best to you and yours. Hope to see you again in one form or another.

Remco van de Sanden
The Netherlands.
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+1 # Satyam 2011-04-29 16:36
Very sad to hear about these problems - I loved to see you together working in the froshow.
Oliver (#21) said:"Pleeease go meet each other and fix things. Because i really don't like seeing you so sad greg!!"
Thats my wish too.
All the Best from Germany
Satyam
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+1 # ian 2011-04-29 19:06
Best of luck Greg and thanx for all the hard work u put into fkp.
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+7 # Troy Day 2011-04-29 23:27
Good luck Greg, I think your answers are all here, get your site up and you will have people following you for sure........I know I will.
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0 # Roman Alina 2011-04-30 01:56
hey greg....cheap ass jared even removed his video (personal massage)....wow wwwwwwz. hes such a jerk
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+5 # ian 2011-04-30 09:25
That jared is something else he removes all the posts with critique, i left a post about how to save 200 bucks and use the adjustment brush in lightroom instead of buying the plug in program silver efex pro. He did not like that post very much it lasted about 2 hours before he deleted it.
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+6 # parminder 2011-04-30 09:27
Hi Greg,
You are a gentleman. I respect you and with this vid it has increased exponentially!
best of luck with fire training!
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+1 # Mike 2011-04-30 16:08
Wow, Jared pulled down his video discussing the situation. I imagine that it was because of the huge count of dislikes stacking up on it.

People are obviously siding with Greg.
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+6 # mecx65 2011-04-30 17:54
Well Greg, you did a great job and I will follow you as well.
Make us proud! :)
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-6 # Garak1 2011-05-01 14:17
Like you said, it's a business. Still, Jared's a bad person and a really bad friend to you. Will not support Jared any longer!! That's just stupid. Every fro lover should see that and if not, be ""gassed"" bcs of that!

Jared is a sad person. Using his mother's dead to propagate his brand and his dream to teach...his castle is crumbling now and the real Jared appears. Shame on Jared!!

Greg, pride yourself with the comments you are getting. This tells something about the fans and about you! Don't throw in the towel yet!! Expand your site! Teach us about "flash" and much more. Don't wait to long!

The fans will appreciate that more than Jared and his senile grandma mumbling about forgotten times!

Good luck to you, Greg!!!

XXX

Netherlands


P.S.: Still didn't get that Cazillo tattoo..... :(
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+1 # John.B 2011-05-02 09:32
you can write something to your fans man. You just let us with our eyes in the sun . . .
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+3 # chris 2011-05-02 10:38
this situation is a bummer. i enjoyed watching your weekly raw edits together. i hope if you decide to develop your own brand, you don't push your brand with t-shirts and stickers and patches with every other sentence and video.
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0 # Joel M. 2011-05-02 12:01
When the site launched i was checking it every day but i got tired of the grandma videos and seeing the same type of shots all the time. I know how to turn the contrast all the way up so i don't need that site anymore.

I am looking forward to your tech videos Greg.
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+17 # Gregory Cazillo 2011-05-02 13:53
I will be making an announcement on the future of my videos this week, stay tuned. --Greg
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+2 # Tim dobbs 2011-05-03 16:48
Just watched your video response and have to say you are behaving like a true Gent. I just bookmarked your Blog and look forward to following whatever you choose to do next.
I have learned loads from your vids and hope you do decide to make more to help out photographers like me......Thanks
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+2 # Klaus 2011-05-04 05:44
It seems, to me, more like Greg is the victim here and Jared is the bad guy.

I hope Greg at least will start making some videos and blog posts himself, cause he has a huge following already so it will be a perfect kick-start for his own blog and brand.

Personally I don't use much Lightroom or Flash so hopefully Greg will do videos on other things as well. On the other hand, re. Jareds videos, I really don't need to know what a box/plastic wrap smells like anymore and the RAW edits also seems to be more and more on auto-pilot, "add contrast. boom. done". And that latest FKP show (#009), what exactly did that have to do with a show other than being a longer video than usual? Nothing.

I thought FKP used to be a great site and I even placed 3 orders for t-shirts over the time, but now I just feel stupid wearing them cause I don't want to support the brand no more. I just hope at least Greg got some of the money from all the t-shirt sales...
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0 # John M 2011-05-04 17:21
Since this parting of the ways I lost my enthusiasm for the site froknowsphoto. Jared and Greg just complicated each other so well. Also that reading a statement off a piece of paper had as much emotion as a 3rd grader forced to read a book report he did not want to write in the first place.

That said, sometimes Jared could get annoying (to me) when he would step on Greg’s sentence while talking. And I always found him pretty arrogant at times also, one thing to know you’re good and another (well you know!)But still like Jared good front man, and he has given me drive to pursue photography more (not as a profession but still be the best I can be). But it’s not the same just knowing Greg is not there. Greg is the tech man and I love his tutorials.

Both will be fine I’m sure. Difference is I wish Greg luck (which he does not need in the first place).
Jared I have mixed emotions, not that I wish him ill either.
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+1 # DrewPWiener 2011-05-06 12:47
You seem to be playing the politics game.
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0 # Caroline 2011-05-11 13:03
Ok, so I unsubscribed from the Froknowsphoto emails, and listed my reason as "bring greg back" or something. xD Here is the response I got: (I'm guessing this is a generic letter for people who are mad Greg left? not sure)
"Hey there, so you know, Greg was not going to go away from the site forever. I asked him to form his own brand so that he could create any content he would like not just what I told him to make each week. My suggestion for him to start his own brand and than make a video with me where we both intro out sites than I announce that greg has formed his own blog and youtube channel never happened.
We have differences in direction and he is free to create and do whatever he would like under his own brand name. There is a lot of stuff that goes on behind the scenes that people do not always get to see."
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0 # Joe 2011-05-11 13:57
Greg said in his video that Jared forced him out, isn't that clear enough? Sounds like Jared is just sugar coating it so people feel better for him.
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0 # Caroline 2011-05-11 14:08
Quoting Joe:
Greg said in his video that Jared forced him out, isn't that clear enough? Sounds like Jared is just sugar coating it so people feel better for him.

I agree with you, but thought the response was interesting because no where had anyone mentioned doing "joint videos" like Jared spoke of in the email. It doesn't sound 100% legit to me, but I'd love to know what Greg had to say about it. It would be nice for them to let the viewers know what is really going on.
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0 # Joe 2011-05-11 14:44
Quoting Caroline:

I agree with you, but thought the response was interesting because no where had anyone mentioned doing "joint videos" like Jared spoke of in the email. It doesn't sound 100% legit to me, but I'd love to know what Greg had to say about it. It would be nice for them to let the viewers know what is really going on.


Since Jared took down his video statement, removed comments & posts from the forum and hasn't made any other comments its pretty clear Jared wanted/pushed Greg out. I always thought Jared was arrogant enough to pull something like this.
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0 # Joe 2011-05-12 13:08
Looks like Jared's email and original statement is BS he hasn't posted or even retweeted Greg's video from today. Just goes to show how Jared is trying to mislead all of us into thinking he's not the bad guy.
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0 # Caroline 2011-05-12 13:34
Oh well. His loss. Karma's a *female dog*
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0 # Chester 2011-05-19 10:59
You are a great inpiration to me. I will definitely missed the jared and greg team. Looking forward to see more videos and tutorials from you. :-)
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